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Hiddink slams ref as Chelsea players cry conspiracy

6 May 2009 22:50

Barcelona´s Andres Iniesta (R) vies for the ball with Chelsea´s Michael Essien during the second leg UEFA Champions League semi-final football match at Stamford Bridge in London. Barcelona qualified for the Champions League final as they drew 1-1 with Chelsea to progress on the away goals rule after the first leg finished 0-0.

LONDON (AFP) - Guus Hiddink admitted he could understand why his players had cried 'conspiracy' after a string of controversial refereeing decisions denied Chelsea a place in the Champions League final.

Andres Iniesta's stoppage-time equaliser earned Barcelona a scarcely-deserved 1-1 draw at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday evening and sent the Catalans into a final meeting with Manchester United on the away goals rule.

Hiddink admitted his side, who had performed with superb discipline in the goalless first leg and gone ahead in the tie through a stunning Michael Essien strike, had contributed to their own downfall by failing to take the chances they had to kill the match.

But that did not stop him from branding the performance of Norwegian official Tom Henning Ovrebo - who turned down a string of strong penalty appeals by Chelsea - as the worst he had seen in his long coaching career.

"Of course, players make many mistakes, coaches make many mistakes and referees can make mistakes. Okay, so it happens. It's all in the game. But when you see two, three or four situations waved away, then, yes, it is the worst I have seen."

The Dutchman acknowledged Chelsea should have capitalised on the extent to which they dominated Wednesday's match, with Iniesta's late, late strike the first shot the visitors had got on target all night.

"It is quite a disappointment that we did not finish it," Hiddink said. "We can be critical of that. But it was the overall feeling of being robbed, of an injustice. That it why it was so hot and angry in the dressing room. I could fully understand the feeling of the players."

Chelsea might have had as many as four penalties and some of the players were quick to link the referee's performance to a belief that UEFA did not want another all-English final in the wake of last year's dull stalemate between the Londoners and Manchester United.

Hiddink however distanced himself from such theories. "Conspiracy is a very tough word and, if there is, you have to prove it," he said.

"Obviously there is a lot written and said prior to this game. I can only mention what I see. I cannot say whether UEFA wouldn't like another English final."

Barcelona coach Josep Guardiola acknowledged Chelsea may have had grounds for complaint but claimed the Londoners also contributed to their own downfall by attempting to sit on their lead.

"I can understand that Chelsea can be disappointed about the performance of the referee," Guardiola said. "I did not see the penalties they say there were but it is possible that there were.

"You have to give us credit though. We tried to win the game, we tried to take the ball and create chances. We did not create so much but I expected Chelsea to create a little bit more pressure."

Barcelona looked dead and buried when Eric Abidal was sent off (another mistake by the referee) with almost 25 minutes left, but Guardiola never lost faith.

"We kept going and we were persistent to the end," he said. "Don't forget we played 25 minutes ten against 11 and Chelsea stayed back. It was difficult enough 11 against 11 so we are so happy to have scored."

Despite Guardiola's positive spin, Barca did little in either leg of the semi-final to suggest they are capable of preventing Manchester United from becoming the first side to retain the European Cup since the introduction of the Champions League format.

Chelsea thoroughly deserved the lead they established with a goal that breathtakingly demonstrated that the Catalans do not enjoy a monopoly on technical excellence.

Frank Lampard's attempted chip was deflected by Yaya Toure into Essien's path and, from just beyond the arc on the edge of the penalty area, the Ghanaian midfielder unleashed a left-foot volley that rattled into the net off the underside of the bar.

Barcelona, in contrast, failed to muster a shot on target until Iniesta's late strike and Chelsea might have won at a canter with a different official.

Daniel Alves was fortunate not to concede a first-half penalty in a wrestling match with Florent Malouda that started outside but continued into the area.

Abidal's tug on Didier Drogba's shirt might have earned a spot-kick soon afterwards and handballs by Gerard Pique and Samuel Eto'o also went unpunished after the break.

But it was also true that Drogba twice failed to find the net when he had only Victor Valdes to beat and Hiddink acknowledged that Chelsea had to look at themselves with the same scrutiny they applied to the referee.

"Outside of the penalties we had two or three chances in open play which we should have taken," Hiddink said. "Then we would not have had all this fuss about the penalties."

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Comments (179)

MADRIDISTA

6 May 2009 22:55

Referee edge Chelsea, advance to Champions League final !!!

hollyice

6 May 2009 22:56

HI HI HA HA HA HA HI HA HI HA HI HA HI As much as I hate Barcelona but because of the guys who say EPL is the best league in the world HA HA HA HI HI HA HI HA HA

Tontodonati

6 May 2009 23:06

Barcelona went through but they did not convince me. I’m still wandering what kinds of excuses were their fans conjuring up before being rescued by Iniesta’s goal. Barca would have to play much better than they did today if they want beat Manchester United. Barca wasted an enormous amount of time executing short passes, many of which were back passes. Greater time of possession is meaningless when you don’t have a clear shot on goal. My prediction for the finals in Rome: Manchester United - Barcelona 3 - 0

badygoal

6 May 2009 23:14

Excuses for what? the team advanced away from home without many key players. And chelsea played defence most of the game, So now they get a chance to rest and be ready for Man U. Barca will win in Rome forca barca

Bostanci

6 May 2009 23:26

chelsea is out!.. no problemo, whole team defended like lions, but i guess defending is not enough. and most of english teams still do not know it. never mind, next year Rangers - chelsea in the final, the most boring teams all over the world.

Pato01

6 May 2009 23:30

chelsea at its evry best cannot match Valencia muchless Bercelona. defensive and shoving is not what soccer is about. Teams like ManU, chelsea and even Arsenal can lay claim to superiourity in Europe in an era where matchfixing has bedevilled the beatiful game. Uefa should come to its senses and stop pretending there is no match fixing in the champions League. Arsenal has no business in the semi-final.

allane

6 May 2009 23:50

what lousy refereeing, unbelievable. 2 handballs and a clear penalty in the Barca box and not 1 penalty? Where did this so-called ref train? In Italy? Corruption pure

allane

6 May 2009 23:51

However much I detest Man Utd, I hope they reap huge revenge on the injustice of tonight

Tontodonati

7 May 2009 00:17

Allane, 2 hand balls? They were not intentional. The defenders were trying to get out of the way.From now on, referees should be trained in your country rather than in Italy.

MOSSAD1984

7 May 2009 00:19

Injustice my ass. That "red card" that the ref gave Abidal was a poor judgement, and Chelsea fans don't see that as injustice. Chelsea have nobody but themselves to blame. Had they scored 2 or 3 goals, we wouldn't be tlking about this. We all know the ball-to-hand rule, and countless times I have seen balls hit John Terry's hand yet I never saw Chelsea fans admit it (especially against Liverpool). So you Chelsea fans shut up. Barcelona had an off night, but still pulled it. This is a heart of a champion. I doubt they'll play like this against Manchester Utd, and if you think this is the Barcelona team that will show up in the final, DREAM ON! Manchester Utd 0-4 Barcelona...that will be a statement game

nbkeweka101

7 May 2009 00:21

JUST LIKE CHELSEA DEFENED TO GET A DRAW @ CAMP NOU,SO BARCA DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO GET A SCORE DRAW.THEY WILL CERTAINLY ANNIHILATE MAN UTD.UTD WILL DEFEND LIKE THEY DID LAST SEASON.THEN IT WILL BE CLEAR THAT THEY R WORLD ROOKIES.IT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER.THE ENGLISH DOMINATION IS COMING 2 AN END.

bram265

7 May 2009 00:57

injustice??

millions of pounds of male-footballers playing like girls at Camp Nou u said injustice??

now those same big-muscled-girls kept crying for penalties, u said injustice?

Germain

7 May 2009 01:02

Calling Avram Grant

smallie

7 May 2009 01:48

Epl Is the best league by far!! and to Pato01- What are U talking about!? Chelsea can't match Valencia much less Barcelona! I guess U didn't watch both games between Chelsea and Barca! Barca was toasted at home and away by Chelsea!! Only to lose by the silly away goal rule!! And Barca better thank their lucky stars they don't have to play Liverpool!! Which in the last 3 meetings againist Real Madrid and Man U. won by a combine total of 9 to 0!! Madridista? Alex is that you!? Kyle's dad!!

smallie

7 May 2009 01:58

Hey Mossad 1984! I guess Barca had an off night againist Chelsea at home last week too huh!?? Barca can not touch ManU. or Liverpool! Only by God's graces did that squeak by Chelsea!! Barca reminds me of the Yankees! Hugh payroll and hugh stars! A chapionship cannot be bought!! Barca will certainly learn that againist Man U.!!

chandman

7 May 2009 02:17

I don't care what anybody else says, Barca have been the most exciting side this year, maybe not in their matches against Chelsea, but I love this side, even though I'm not a Barca fan.

There were 2 instances for potential penalties in the game at camp nou, I guess this ref cancelled those injustices off.

Good job Barca, hope they beat the devil out of Man U!

Wogy41

7 May 2009 02:31

I am NOT fan of Chelsea or Barcelona but...UEFA should be shame.Is that how UEFA promote the WORLD GAME...some comments said it was NOT deliberate hand-ball by defender who was trying to get out of the way...NO DEFENDER in the whole world will get out of the way when there is chance to opposition player to score...and Defender should NEVER,NEVER out-stretch his hands when defending...but to me it was obvious that UEFA wants Barcelona in the Final and NOT two English Teams for obvious commercial reasons.Tom Ovrebo Norvegian Referee will totally diminish from future Matches.I will bet my life on it,but it won't help Chelsea.

Germain

7 May 2009 02:40

I guess it takes more than a bald scalp to make a referee Collina.

Faysal1992

7 May 2009 03:16

Germain .. are you new ?? your comments are humourous but intelligent .. Nice one on the Collina joke :)

Faysal1992

7 May 2009 03:20

now on this game .. Barca wanted a penalty at Camp Nou which i think should've been given .. Abidal shouldn't have been sent off .. and Anelka's penalty should've been given .. but they all cancel each other out .. in the end The team that won deserved to win .. you can't possibly tell me Chelsea, a team that was going to finish 6th if it wasn't for Hiddink (no offence to anyone) can kill off Barcelona .. it was very close but while i was watching I knew the goal was coming .. i seriously didn't take my eyes off tthe TV for one second because i knew 90% that Barca were going to score .. even though they looked like a couple of 10 year olds just passing the ball around without any threat .. I'm gonna be fair and say Barcelona are wayy more consistent and therefore they deserve to be in the Final ..chealsea .. i mean Chelski .. tough luck .. by the way I don't hate chelsea .. for those idiots who might attack

chandman

7 May 2009 03:27

Faysal you know what you're talking about and I like your style! Totally agree!

chandman

7 May 2009 03:29

By the way I don't think there was a conspiracy, I just think the referee was an idiot!

Areign

7 May 2009 03:29

GOD! why the hell didnt that referee give us 2 pk's in addition to the red card where anelka trips over himself? we cant do everything why dont we ever get any help? and then barca only have to score with 10 men on the field. totally unfair. especially after what happened last week where they didnt give henry the blatant PK. totally set a precedent they didnt follow. i mean what were they expecting us to do? attack? fucking disgrace.

gummy94

7 May 2009 03:58

for those of you crying wolf over the handballs...

i seriously think the last two handballs were played off by the ref, because of his earlier decision to red card abidal. maybe he thought he had got the card judgment wrong, and therefore gave barcrelona the benefit of a doubt for the latter two handballs. plus, i see handballs all the time in epl and none have been this hotly contested ( guess it makes sense though, this is the uefa semis)

btw im quite pleased no one has blasted yaya toure for his (somewhat) controversial tackles. i feel he was the best barca player on the pitch, delivering sublime ability to pick out the ball and not the player.

mybnr34

7 May 2009 04:01

Tontodonati.

It is an unintentional hand-ball by the defenders but the ball moved towards the goal,the direction of the ball is towards the goal especially in anelka's case.So it should be penalty.Poor ref.

phughes699

7 May 2009 04:18

What I watched last night was unbelievable. I feel that it has brought European football to a very low level. There is no doubt that Chelsea should be in the final.

You have to abide by the referees decisions, that's football.

it is a disgrace that Chelsea have missed out on a Champions League Final due to the decisions of the referee.

It would not have mattered if Barcelona had not scored that last goal. I would have said that referees are always making mistakes. We see it every week in The English Premiership.

The amount of mistakes is the thing that causes the problem. Four possible penalty decisions were denied, of which at least two were genuine fouls. Then he sent a Barcelona player off for no reason.

As an honest football supporter I feel sorry for Chelsea. What happened at Stamford Bridge last night was a travesty of justice and UEFA who we know are anti English, should be looking in to the possibility of corruption within the game. We hear about corruption all the time and now I believe it is definately the case here.

I just hope they have a sensible referee for the final to avoid another ridiculous situation like this. I have always championed for video technology to help the referee, maybe that is why it has never evolved, because it leaves decisions to corrupted referees to sort out.

Again very disappointing and a disgrace to the beautiful game.

Germain

7 May 2009 04:21

They wear blue, play catenaccio and throw around conspiracy theories. Are we talking about Chelsea or Italy?

No offense to Zola

navi072

7 May 2009 04:58

Germain,

You have no right to compare Chealsea with Italy. Italy doesnt cry like english teams do. Its always the other way around, ie when Italy win something, and everything. FORZA AZZURI..

ChosenLord

7 May 2009 04:58

I'm not a fan of either Chelsea or Barcelona. I like Liverpool and we pretty despise Chelsea...but I guess to be pretty safe the ref was bad for both teams. Abidal didn't deserve the red card and Pique should have been whistled for hand ball.

I can't really critisize the team for getting so upset because it was of high emotion and I felt that they really contained and "figured out" Barca for those 2 games. They really made them look ordinary and the ONE shot on target they had was made and in extra time to boot.

I noticed Chelsea succeeded in making Barca have to shoot from long range which they don't specialize in. They're a tap, pass and shoot from close distance team. They pass laterally across the goal to expose holes or openings in their opposing defense and Chelsea did an amazing job of shutting down Messi and Eto'o. Really was a clinic on how to shut down an amazing offense. Hiddink really outcoached Guardiola in both games but in the end they had luck and bad reffing on their side.

Conspiracy against the English teams? I really really hope not.

phughes699

7 May 2009 05:05

I think they should check the referees bank account. Something wasn't right last night. And Barcelona know it too.

phughes699

7 May 2009 06:40

After Barcelona were gifted an appearance in the Champions League Final by some of the most obviously incompetent and biased refereeing many of us have ever seen in the modern game, the Catalans (who had one shot on target the whole match) have been installed as very slim favourites to triumph over Manchester United, somehow.

Personally, I have no idea how a team like Barcelona expects to go up against a United team and perform like they did today and still expect to win. Seeing as though Chelsea were denied nearly 4 or 5 clear-cut penalties, you have to wonder just how soft of a referee we can expect for the Champions League Final.

Barcelona are listed with a price of 8/5 compared to United's 7/4. The draw pays 11/5.

The slimmest correct score odds are on a 1-1 draw paying 9/2. 1-0 to Barcelona pays 11/2 while 1-0 to Manchester United pays 6/1.

Cristiano Ronaldo is the favoured first goalscorer and considering his current form, you'd have to back him at 6/1. Messi is just behind at 13/2. Eto'o and Henry are both at 7/1 while Berbatov and Rooney both stand at 15/2.

Consider these facts going forward: Barcelona will have Carlos Puyol as their only actual central defender available for this match. Lionel Messi was virtually anonymous the entire game and it was clear that Barcelona struggled against a much taller and more physical team.

I am confident that unless Michael Platini parachutes in another extremely friendly and biased referee, United will run out 3-0 winners in the Champions League Final- completely destroying Barcelona. If that comes true, you'll be paid out at 33/1. I do not think Barcelona will be able to deal with Ferdinand/Vidic, much less contain the likes of Rooney and Ronaldo.

Barcelona will require some serious injuries to happen to a number of United's key players if they expect to show up to the final and play like they did today. I think that's their only chance of winning.

PREDICTION

3-0 to Manchester United @ 33/1

Cristiano Ronaldo to score first @ 6/1

Half-time/Full-time Man Utd/Man Utd @ 7/2

Nemanja Vidic to score last @ 28/1

BesTalentScout

7 May 2009 07:27

the JFK assassination was a conspiracy too............but you don't hear the Kennedy family making much noise about it , do ya ?

so Barca played like shit and still got through with 10 men, imagine what they can do to Man U with 11 men and playing well too.......

hollyice

7 May 2009 07:34

As I said before I hate Barcelona but my hat off ! With 10 men they knew how to come up and kick out a team from a league which proclaimed itself the best league in the world .

This morning the whole world know that the domination told by the media is just crap .

Real Madrid staff , players , coaches all agreed that Barcelona were phenominal this year , so why I have to be ashamed to say it ! Without Henry they knew how to move to the final , they have to go and send that ManU to more troubles , they are near 1 billion dollars debts , if they lose , they will just kill them .

Giorgio

7 May 2009 08:00

The English used to have a reputation for good sportsmanship, for being generous and magnanimous in victory and gracious in defeat.

Things have changed and the English have now shown the world that they are bad losers and always blame defeat on some conspiracy.

And, of course, there is always the stupid idiot who claims that the referee (who was supposedly bribed), was either Italian, or trained in Italy. Actually, we have some very fine referees in Italy, and they always do well in international competitions.

But then, we musn't forget that prejudice goes hand in hand with ignorance and stupidity !!!!!!!!

nbkeweka101

7 May 2009 08:09

WHEN THE ENGLISH LOSE,THE WHOLE WORLD IS AGAINST THEM.BUT IF THEY WIN,THEY THINK THEY R THE BEST.BAD LOSES,BAD MORAL STANDARDS AND BAD PRESS.HAVE THEY 4GOTTEN ITALIA 90.WHERE THEY CHEATED CAMEROUN?I DONT C ANY CONSPIRACY HERE.BARCA DONT PLAY PHYSICAL FOOTBALL.IF THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE POSSESION WITH TEN MEN THEN THE EPL NEEDS SOME SCHOOLING.UTD WILL FADE AWAY TO SUPERIORITY.

Chelsea4ever

7 May 2009 08:23

I DONT BLAME THE REFEREE THAT'S THE PRICE OF THE AWAY GOAL . THEY SCORED AND GOOD LUCK FOR THEM .

newtonheath1878

7 May 2009 09:40

Fair play to Barca, they persevered even with ten men and scored that crucial away goal. I personally thought Chelsea had Barca sussed out over the two legs and even though Barca did play the prettier football they were quite predictable for lengthy periods of both matches. The better side went through in the end with a little help from some absolutely shocking refereeing (that has to be the worst ref performance I have ever witnessed). I’m sure the Chelsea fans are sick as parrots this morning, a defeat is a lot easier to take when you have been outplayed but if you feel you have been cheated then it is a difficult pill to swallow. Equally I’m sure the Barca fans will be delighted this morning but they will know they had a very lucky escape last night.

phughes699

7 May 2009 10:12

Predudice, ignorance and stupidity all go together with someone who cannot watch a football game and give a fair comment on the outcome.

Some people are blind to the truth, and the truth is that Barcelona were lucky to go through, helped by a referee that should not be refereeing Sunday League football. Englishmen are not bad losers, they just feel cheated, and that is raking nothing away from Barcelona.

Parti357

7 May 2009 10:20

For it to have been a conspiracy Barca would have been awarded a penalty on any little fall in the box. But it wasn't that way. Barca, reduced to ten men, earned their goal the hard way. If barca had lost we'd be talking about how the expulsion was a conspiracy against barca as well as the ref from the first match.

Chez

7 May 2009 10:51

pato1

you are a dickhead, in spite of the disgraceful refereeing and the countless decisions that went against chelsea and the goal that came in the last minute barca only managed a draw and went through via a rule that in no way judges the better team

fact - Real are higher then valencia in la liga

fact - liverpool beat real 5-0 on aggregate

fact - chelsea defeated liverpool 7-5 on aggregate

fact - chelsea drew 1-1 against barca

fact - chelsea are better then all of your so called 'beautiful' spanish clubs

welll done to drogba for showing his emotion

hollyice

7 May 2009 11:24

Chez , can you confirm that you are an other dirty Englishman ?

Facts there are plenty ...

Fact :Liverpool crushed ManU

Fact:Chelsea crushed Liverpool

Fact :Bordeaux draw Chelsea

Does it mean little Bordeaux is better than the actual Epl leader??Compare more between games and stay with your non -English teams who are cheating banks.

phughes699

7 May 2009 12:38

Don't take any notice of the one called Hollyice, he hates Englishmen and he is a dirty greasy smelly Spaniard nobrainer.

hollyice

7 May 2009 13:04

Dirty old paedo in Bangkok talking about football , go and shoot innocent humans who are 40 years younger than you !

vance

7 May 2009 13:49

So where does that red card for Abidal for a diving Anelka fit in your conspiracy theory?

vance

7 May 2009 13:52

Very childish from Hiddink, he should know you can never be sure to win if you stay at 1-0 and don't go for the 2-0.

If you defend all game long (at home!) and depend on the counter, you can always get that crucial away goal against you. That's football. Hiddink should've known.

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 14:08

How's that bitter taste pooghes/newty?

I repeat, let's go back to the 1st leg: #1 Barca denied a clear penalty. #2 Ballack could/should have been sent off for a filthy challenge at the Camp Nou. Do we just forget about the wrong decisions that went against Barca? That's why the English are the most pathetic LOSER BASTARDS in the world.

I could go into all the decisions that were wrong over the 2 legs. But I'll make it nice and short. Despite the ridiculous calls for 5-6 penalties.. with some pathetic deluded bastards saying 3-4 were "clear" pens.. there was only 1 clear pen, and that was the Pique handball. Sure there was slight contact for the other appeals but they would have been very soft penalty awards, and weren't these the Chelsea players who were telling Barca to stop crying about UGLY football...Time WASTING...ANTI-football...and most importantly "TOUGH" challenges... as it was a man's game? It's fucking LAUGHABLE.

When the English lose they always play the "Platini hates us" card as well. "He hates our success" ... "He hates that we have the best league in the world" ... "He's ANTI-English" ... "Uefa hates us" ... "The whole world hates us" are the usual pathetic cries.

You know I tuned into Talk Sport today and I actually heard them calling for the game to be REPLAYED...? I wonder if Barca would like to play a REPLAY of the game in 05 when the Barca goalkeeper was RUGBY tackled to allow Terry to head home the winner? eh? Who was "bribed" that night? Where were the English with their pathetic conspiracies then? That old adage springs to mind: What goes around COMES AROUND.

phughes699

7 May 2009 14:58

ITalkSense.

Condoning what happened last night just shows what a stupid prick you are. It's OK for you to go back in history to some game in the past but last night's referee display was disgraceful in anyone's eyes.

newtonheath1878

7 May 2009 15:11

Italk

No bitter taste from me, read my other post here. You seem to have formed the impression that I dislike Barca, not the case my man, I have always stated I admire Barca I just don’t think they are streets ahead of other top European sides as some say they are. You say you like to talk sense; if that is the case then I find it difficult how you can deny that the referee was absolutely shocking last night! You and I have watched enough football to both know that Ovrebo and his colleagues were just not the men for the job last night, they made mistake after mistake which affected both sides. The red card was pathetic, the dismissing of the penalty claims were unforgivable, well at the very least two of them. The whole audience last night couldn’t believe what they were seeing; Barca fans must have had to pinch themselves last as they must have thought they were dreaming. I don’t buy into all this conspiracy theory garbage but it is easy to see why some people do, a blind man would have given two of those penalty claims last night.

Barca were lacklustre last night, but as I said earlier, fair play to them they stuck to their guns and got the goal they needed, even though the game should have been beyond them by the 93rd minute! I said last week I couldn’t careless who won this leg. Whoever your team meets in the European cup final is going to be no pushover but from a red perspective we saw quite a few frailties that will give us encouragement!

phughes699

7 May 2009 15:12

hollyice

I can smell you from here you dirty greasy Spick.

hollyice

7 May 2009 15:15

Well , the problem here is the English attitude , their media made them sick . Complaining about everything .

Last time Fergie was kicked out from FA cup and the next morning the ground's man in Wembley was kicked from his job .

Madrid played against Liverpool at Anfield , no any Englishman came here to say about the first goal when the ball hit Heinze's shoulder and not his hand in the penalty area !

Second goal Torres pulled him from his shirt and fall down before he scored . Nonody said there was mistakes !

What losers those English !

3 teams from England in the semifinals and 7 goals scored . NO one Englishman scored ! What a shame !

adhambarcelona

7 May 2009 15:19

fc barcelona fucks chelsea as i thought and that the truth of life that fc barcelona is the best ever football team not only in europe but in the whole world and also i want to say the guss hiddink was playing with a kid technique to defense in spain with the whole team and defense in england with all england he dont have the players that makes the difference and drogba was face to face with victor valdez and he didnt got the smart mind to score he shots the ball with blinded eyes anyway at the end i want to send a great thanks not pretend but as a lover for FC BARCELONA 4 ever and the end title that i wants to add:

FC BARCELONA FUCKS CHELSEA IN A ONE SIDE GAME.

phughes699

7 May 2009 15:25

The English do not like CHEATS.

adhambarcelona

7 May 2009 15:27

Barca Barca Barca I am the most happiest man in the whole world and I hope that Barcelona crushs the man united although i like the man united and it's my favorite team in england but BARCELONA is my favorite team in the world

hollyice

7 May 2009 15:29

Tell me how not to hate Sassenachs :D English are not like CHEATS :D You have to start to build a better picture you guys here the anti-Englishness is growing :D

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 15:39

I read your post newty, and what I read was a very bitter man. A man like you only ever sees what should have been given FOR them(with the deluded exaggeration)...and NOTHING that should have went AGAINST them. Yes the referee WAS a disgrace, he got 2 MAJOR decisions wrong = 1 for Chelsea and 1 for Barca. See how it evens itself up? NO you probably don't, because you're so deluded like the rest of the English...you want all the decisions to go FOR you. And how some of those Chelsea Butchers who call themselves football players didn't get booked for constant fowling is beyond belief. Face facts you ugly prick, Chelsea tried to batter there way through that tie. Thank God there VILE "tactics" didn't see them through to the Final, where the world would have witnessed another boring all FOREIGNenglish Final. That's the really sad thing I find about the English, they would rather watch a disgusting boring game between 2 "English" clubs just so they can say they had another "all English" final and carry on with their pathetic cries of "this PROVES we have the best league in the world" than watch a fantastic team like Barca play the game the PROPER WAY.

Shove your "all English" final up your hairy asshOles.

phughes699

7 May 2009 15:46

I see the Soccerway.Com CLOWNS are back here, Hollyice and ITalknonSense.

They haven't a brain between them. Maybe as they become a little older they will behave more sensible. But then again, a Spick and a Jock,......I'm not too sure.

Pato01

7 May 2009 15:47

Smallie and parti357

my sense sense of soccer is the beautiful game with all associated artistry attached. skill not kicking and running; shoving and kicking, remember Lucas mordic the clever midfielder EPL nearly destroyed his career. Marquez did not play because of this reason. I understand Rooney has improved of late - Rome will decide and 27th is not so far away. Fergy's influence on EPL will not go as far as Rome. Rio FErdinand has a heck of job to do. see you folks in Rome. Don't bet on MANU - be warned

Tontodonati

7 May 2009 15:53

Germain, I happen to be Italian and I wasn't offended by your hilarious confusion of identity between Chelsea and Italy. Actually I thought it was nice. But Chelsea is not as convincing as the Azzurri!

Bostanci

7 May 2009 15:53

phughes the bastard,

you are not a real football supporter. you are a hooligan, scum, and an english. how can you talk about football. your hooligans killed many supporters, and destroyed everything good about football. you bastards threatened the refrees. you scums brought cheat, diving and conspracy to football. so, shut up. leave football alone, try to find your real father, asked your fat mum who she fucked in the local pub.

hollyice

7 May 2009 15:55

Chelsea Butchers :D They spend their time in maximizing their muscles not with the ball .

Pato01

7 May 2009 16:01

Drogba wanted to bite the refereee. sometime need to attach a lead to him to restrain this doglike habit of his. surely, he is not suggesting Essien to commit suicide?????. Pls tell that buch of mouth to grow up and chill out.

CHEZ

eat your facts they are worthless. reality is Barca won. go take a pee

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:03

Bostanci

That was a very artistic posting you just made. Whose womb did you fall out of, or are you the afterbirth.

Was your Mum on the game? Probably she was. Obviously you have no father your foul mouthed piece of shit.

When you talk to others in the way you do, expect it back small cock.

my guess is that you are a dirty greasy Spick too.

To hell with you and your country. it is full of low lifers anyway.

RULE BRITANNIA!

.................LOL.............

hollyice

7 May 2009 16:03

Phughes go to sleep , it's 9 pm already there in Bangkok . Come back here to write alone like a fool when you wake up !

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:08

hollyice

There is no circus here today, so all the CLOWNS should go home. You pathetic little prick.

hollyice

7 May 2009 16:08

Hi Bostanci ,

Check here if you want to see phughes page .

http://members.fortunecity.com/phughes699/Paul%27sHomepage.html

He lives in Bangkok . he is 60 .

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:11

hollyice

I bet that is really interesting. You silly little boy, you will never learn will you?

hollyice

7 May 2009 16:11

And here a page about Phughes699 .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/7869861.stm

He deleted other pages about some young people date sites .

hollyice

7 May 2009 16:12

I want you to see nightmares tonight phughes .

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:14

hollyice

You really are the Soccerway.Com CLOWN, posting links to nonsense.

.....LMAO...........

Chelsea4ever

7 May 2009 16:17

Yesterday's game was a warning ! UEFA are making ready new rules of 6+5 which will kill your clubs for once and leave you with billions of dollars of debts !

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 16:17

And let's not forget the animal fans at the end of the game... You know those pathetic little flags that Chelsea hand out for free? so they can try and generate ANY sort of atmosphere? A few of the animal fans were bouncing them off Barca players heads as they walked off the park. And they were smashing up the streets outside the stadium and attacking innocent Barca fans. This is the way the Englsih behave when they lose. Of course you won't see any of this in the news, but my contacts informed me exactly what was going on.

It's like when an English player dives, the BBC then edit it out, so moronic fans like newty won't see that English players are diving all over the place. They don't mind showing the FOREIGNERS doing it, but when it comes to Gerrard-Lampard-NEVILLE(do you know what I'm talking about newty?) They love to brush past it or cover it up like the latest ridiculous Neville dive.

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:18

phughes699

I bet your Mum is proud of you, you dirty ugly piece of shit.

hollyice

7 May 2009 16:21

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

phughes699 is talking to himself

I bet your Mum is proud of you, you dirty ugly piece of shit.

you are right phughes :D

SERIOUS

7 May 2009 16:29

O Lord, make my English enemies ridiculous .

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:32

hollyice

I'm talking to you ShitForBrains.

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:35

hollyice.

I bet you wish you had a dad?

........LOL...........

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 16:36

According to various reports in the British press, the referee from the Champions League semi-final second leg between Chelsea and Barcelona at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday has been smuggled out of England after receiving death threats.

Tom Henning Ovrebo was confronted by several Blues players, most notably Didier Drogba and Michael Ballack, following the game after the west London club were dumped out of the competition thanks to a late Andres Iniesta equaliser which sent La Blaugrana through on away goals.

Former international referee Graham Poll has had his say on the matter. "This morning he's being smuggled out of our country under police escort - this is a referee of a football match. That is a disgrace," Poll told Radio 4.

"When he booked in a hotel they had to change the hotel he was staying at because of the fear that maybe fans would find him.

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:37

hollyice.is the product of some strangers ball emptying project.

.........LOL.............

newtonheath1878

7 May 2009 16:38

You are a sad angry man Italk; if you read my post they actually pay compliment to Barca you imbecile. Lets not forget the UEFA cup final last year (do you no what I’m talking about Italk), pot calling the kettle black again Italk! Full of contradictions as per usual. I have no affiliation to Chelsea, I was actually routing for Barca last night as I wanted them in the final, some of us are not as shallow as you see and don’t let the silly little debates get in the way. I wanted Barca because I can see frailties and believe United can pick them off at the end of the month, Chelsea would have been a different proposition all together as they would have been so up for revenge for last year!

I’m not being biased in my opinion of the match, the plain and simple truth is that if the ref would have been stronger Barca would have been out but that’s football. Ovrebo admitted to UEFA officials after the match that he made several big mistakes. The officiating was a shambles Italk, you know it, and I know it, everyone who watched the match, English or not, knows it. Next you will be telling me the holocaust didn’t happen

hollyice

7 May 2009 16:42

Phughes I have to leave you go to sleep , I am going out to spend my 145 e from yesterday's 1-1 result . I played 20 e for 0-1 , 1-1 , 1-2 .

Probably our friend I talk has some prdiction for Hamburg - Bremen tonight . Dont miss it ! 11 of the 22 players last time were German ! It's a German game !

phughes699

7 May 2009 16:42

Mark,

These small minded pricks are anti everything, They are certainly not proper football supporters who give unbiased views.

hollyice

7 May 2009 16:48

Halt , newty ,

"Next you will be telling me the holocaust didn’t happen"

Are you coming atheist ? I know your ex-wife was a Christian not you , but .... a muslim who believes in HOLOCAUST ? Did the Glazers influence your thoughts ?

soccer2008

7 May 2009 16:53

I learning from you much from football but alsoo not nice bad words but ok I am a man alsoo .

Who is he Holaucaust ? english footballer ?

SERIOUS

7 May 2009 17:07

A man gets what he wants by acting smart . Newtonheath1878 is mixing Holocaust and thinks he is allowed to escape . English game is over .

hollyice

7 May 2009 17:11

No , he is just wondering why I talk about his ex , not enough smart like you think Serious ;)

Bostanci

7 May 2009 17:11

phughes the voyeur,

how can you say english do not cheat. did you forget lineker's dive against cameroon in 1990, or owen's dives against argentina 1998 and 2002. you are just a stupid old fart. go back to zoo (britannia), you fucking pedophile.

Chelsea4ever

7 May 2009 17:16

I HATE THAT SON OF B''''H OVREBO BUT STILL I WILL BE ANTI-MANCHESTER IN THE FINAL !!!!!!!!

el_mago

7 May 2009 17:26

MR HIDDINK: "Of course, players make many mistakes, coaches make many mistakes and referees can make mistakes. Okay, so it happens. It's all in the game. But when you see two, three or four situations waved away, then, yes, it is the worst I have seen."

Well done MR HIDDINK. When you find some time, please look this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwK6Rluemig

punishment is lame but it comes

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 17:29

Don't talk to me about anger newty. I'm not the 1 who had to seek help from Allah for my violent ways. But becoming a Muslim really wasn't a very good idea, as all they do is encourage violence, particularly towards the Female Species.

I’m not being biased in my opinion of the match, the plain and simple truth is that if the ref would have been stronger in the 1st leg Chelsea with their VILE "tactics" would have been out but that’s football. Sometimes it takes 2 legs to destroy Butchers.

We know why you would prefer Barca newty, and it has nothing to do with Chelsea being a better team or being out for "revenge" You know that Chelsea would be happy to play the same boring game as United by just waiting on counter attacks and set-pieces, happy with boring 0-0's or playing for penalties. United will play similar to Chelsea. They'll sit back and look to nick something on the break or with a set-piece. That's the beauty of Barca, regardless of the opposition Barca NEVER change their style of play. When they face scared English clubs, they still take the game to them as they don't know any other way. You and the rest of the scared English should be showing them some God damn respect. Otherwise they would just keep the ball off your high ball teams for 90 minutes and then win on Pens.

Bostanci

7 May 2009 17:32

hollyice, thank you very much.

i read his articles and decided not to write anything against him anymore. he is pathetic. he is exactly as i imagined; ugly, looks stupid, and very very english.

and dear poor phughes,

i am really sorry old fart. you have already been fucked, man. facebook bullshit, thailand, missing brother .... ha ha haaa.

you are pathetic. i am not going to write you again. just one more thing. is your missing brother's father and your father are same person? ha ha haaa

newtonheath1878

7 May 2009 17:55

I see you are being a little worm again Miss Piggy, you never learn do you, it will catch up with you holly I’m not becoming an atheist!

Again it seems to be my turn to make you look foolish again.

Firstly I have only ever been married once!

Secondly, no holly I’m not becoming an atheist! To deny the holocaust undermines Islam as Islam, just like Christianity, relies on epistemology!

Careful where you take your response now holly, as you dont want to continue being the clown do you?

hollyice

7 May 2009 18:03

Newty ,

I meant your ex-partner , with whom youhad a kid out of marriage , you know when you was in th darkness , do you remember ?

newtonheath1878

7 May 2009 18:10

Your still at it aren’t you, you little worm. Still acting like a child putting two and two together and coming up with five. What a clown, as I said to you earlier, keep your cards close to your chest. You keep mixing religion with football and failing to deliver when acting like a worm and I will carry on laughing away at you!

hollyice

7 May 2009 18:30

Newty , we were talking football till here , other people here too realize who started mixing religion , politics and sport . It was you by talking about holocaust . I know you couldnt stand the anti-englishness here . You were left with phughes the only clowns talking about all english final and the idea Epl the best league in the world is only in your little brains .

We are saying there are many good leagues in the world , Spain's , Italy's , Germany's league and why not English but calling it the best made you looking like clowns here .

Your teams will be a desaster in few months maybe , we are not in danger if new UEFA rules come , not Italy's ones , less German and French , Dutch , Scottish , Belgian or any other league .

New rules will kick the owners from your clubs and will leave you with billions of dollars just like GM and other firms who dont know what to do . States help them , but dont wait Brown to save your mickey mouse club .

newtonheath1878

7 May 2009 20:05

Missed the point totally again haven’t you? Mentioning the holocaust was a “figure of speech” which was relevant to the subject you fool! Get your dictionary out and look up epistemology; you just might understand the figure of peach a little better then!

Now, you show me and your cronies where I said it would be an English Final?

Well?

Difficult to back your claims up Miss Piggy without facts isn’t it?

You show me where I have said the EPL is the best in the world?

Well?

Difficult to back your claims up Miss Piggy without facts isn’t it?

It has been your own ignorance and stereotyping that led you to assume that this is what I think, yes Italk has come on here and shouted and screamed about how the English self label the EPL as the best in the world and in his opinion it is garbage, he is entitled to his opinion, all I have ever done is defend the English league as a good league who’s premier teams are enjoying a purple patch in Europe just as Italian, Spanish, German and Dutch clubs have done in the past. What I have done is picked up on contradictions in critical statements made by others about the EPL that could quite easily be applied to other leagues. So you keep carrying on with your deluded interpretations of what has actually been said and carry on going down the derogative path when people disagree with them.

But let’s not detract from the fact that you have made yourself look a clown on here over the past few weeks by failing to deliver you little worm, you have been at it again on this page, posting meaningless links to stories that incriminate no one, all they prove is that you are a child that throws his toys out of the pram when he cannot get his own way, grow up Hollyice! I’m still waiting for you to show me that you can swallow your pride and be a man!

hollyice

7 May 2009 20:19

I will be soon here just wait , I am watching football and betting live ... Attendez SVP

hollyice

7 May 2009 20:40

It's very kind of you that you waited . I won some extra money .

Well you have said tome more bad things a million times that's because you dont feel fine .You still asking for something what I can give you know . A little child when you ask him dont play with some dangerous stuff he will cry if you take that thing and hide it . He doesnt know that it's good for him what you are doing , to protect him like I protect you . You dont realise it's good what I am doing . The same child will realise someday and understand it was good what you did when he was small .

The same for you , someday , you will say to yourself Hollyice was acting like my dda and protecting me . Who knows people are googling ,watching ,spying when you send a CV somewhere , and accidently hollyice can spol your life if he doesnt protect you .

Remember me when you take something from your kid , he will cry and maybe hate you that while , he doesnt know why you dont give it to him . So I wont repeat it , try to understand :)

I can see you are not interested about football , there was a good semi final , and the other one will start soon , my GF is more interested about football than you finally . Come out from your Manchesterlandia and watch the world . Greetings to your family .

hollyice

7 May 2009 20:43

I am writing fast and dont misunderstand me please , if I say I can maybe I meant I cant like when I said

You still asking for something what I can give you know .

I meant you are asking for something I cant give.

Rmember you cant give to kids everything if you want good for them .

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 20:49

A decent game of football was turned into a great game as Shakhtar scored that late winner :D Keeps my 4/1 dbl going. Hamburg will surely be too strong for Bremen.

NO answer for ITalkSense :D ...Not surprising. Some people should stick to rolling around on prayer mats.

hollyice

7 May 2009 20:58

Hi ITS , the odds before Shaktar scored was 5.4 x 20 e ;)

hungo

7 May 2009 21:31

Chelsea should have played soccer in the first leg…then they wouldn’t have put themselves in this tough situation…both games, Barca played beautiful attacking football while Chelsea defended the crap out of both games and heavily depended on counter attacks.

It would have been nice to see all out attacking football for all of us to enjoy both games…I just hope we get that treat in Rome!!!!

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 21:46

Alright hollyice, I take it you backed Shakhtar?

I'm not too confident about Hamburg after the 1st half. I hate those bastards Bremen. They never seem to win away from home but they hardly ever lose, and they can always raise their game. They're such a dangerous side as they've got loads of goals in them. If Hamburg continue to back off and sit too deep then Bremen WILL score again. Hamburg need to be more aggressive in the 2nd half.

Hey I noticed you've been getting the Muslim rattled lately. He keeps repeating himself, telling you to "prove you're a man" How can anyone prove they're a man on CENSORWAY? He's making a real fool of himself lately.

Tontodonati

7 May 2009 22:06

Newtonheath, Phughes, ItalkSense, Hollyice, soccerwinner, please behave like civilized human beings should. I hope that tonight, before going to bed, you have the integrity to read your own postings and examen your conscience. I’m afraid that I would have to group all of you in the same category. You are all my friends but I wish you were a better example of what sportsmanship is all about. There are many here who are trying to learn English through your postings but you are giving them a diet of geographical dialects, obscene words and out of topic comments. It’s unfortunate because I know you can all do better. Just try a little harder!

ITalkSense

7 May 2009 22:48

I knew it, those Hamburger Bastards got beat by those Bremen Bastards :-(

Just winding you up Professor Tonto :D

I have to say though it was a cracking 2 legged game, and overall I think Bremen just about played the best football and deserve their spot in the Final.

I'll try my best to STOP swearing Tonto, but let's not forget I was doing a pretty good job before I started getting attacked by pooghes and the Muslim. As I told you swearing is the norm for me. I think my best bet would be to stay away from CENSORWAY as much as I can...

hollyice

7 May 2009 22:53

<<you are giving them a diet of geographical dialects>>

I have to say I first laughed about this sentence , but then I was thinking about phughes I stopped laughing . He should start to be the first example with his "heavy" 60 years of life experience and especially for his teacher past .The opposite happened young men tell him what to do .

The comments were ok till phughes intervevened at 12:38 against me . And I told him , when you start I dont know how to stop

Then he restarted at 14:58 agaisnt Italksense .

I think the one to blame is the one who started .

hollyice

7 May 2009 22:58

ITS , I was going to lose 60 e but then just before Hamburg scored the second goal I bet for a 2-3 , I got my money back with 25 e plus .

I dont remember when I saw last time so bad goalkeeper like Hamburg's keeper . They must send him to Sunderland hell !

Tontodonati

7 May 2009 23:27

Hollyice, most likely you stopped laughing when, upon consulting the English dictionary, you found out the meaning of "geographycal dialect."

hollyice

7 May 2009 23:51

Tonto , if you are enough smart those two words (geographycal dialect) are the same in every language , no need for a dictionary or newtonheath to tell me about his mother tongue ;) Take your coffee first ;)

Tontodonati

8 May 2009 01:04

Hollyice. I’ve never claimed to be smart. At least not as smart as you are. Since you’re aware that geographical dialect is common in every language, you should also be aware that there is a proper way a language should be spoken and/or written. I’m hoping you give me a sample of that on your next posting.

phughes699

8 May 2009 03:51

Football's great conspiracy theories

Liverpool v Inter Milan, 1965:

Leading 3-1 from the first leg at Anfield, Bill Shankly's side were beaten 3-0 in front of 90,000 at the San Siro in what one Liverpool director referred to as evidence that "they are never going to let a British team win the European Cup." Ian St John saw one legitimate goal chalked off, while Spanish referee Jose Maria Oritz de Mendibil allowed two controversial Inter goals to stand.

Derby County v Juventus, 1973

:

It is a scene immortalised in The Damned United: Brian Clough loudly informing the Italian press he would not speak to "cheating --------". Clough's first European adventure was mortally wounded by a 3-1 defeat in Italy after Archie Gemmill and Roy McFarland were booked – ruling them out of the return, which Derby won 1-0 – and Juventus substitute Helmut Haller accompanied referee Gerhard Schulenburg to his dressing room at half-time.

Leeds Utd v AC Milan, 1973:

A European Cup Winners' Cup final dominated by strange decisions from Greek referee Christos Michas, Norman Hunter being harshly dismissed and two Leeds penalty appeals turned away. The Greek FA later found Michas guilty of match-fixing in relation to events in the game and he was banned for life by Uefa.

Leeds Utd v Bayern Munich, 1975:

Picking up the pieces from Clough's disastrous 44 days at Elland Road, Jimmy Armfield somehow guided the remnants of Don Revie's side into the European Cup final. Bayern won 2-0, but not before referee Michel Kitabdjian had ruled out Peter Lorimer's valid goal and denied Leeds two clear-cut penalties.

Anderlecht v Nottingham Forest, 1984:

The only proven case of bribery affecting an English team's progression in Europe. Clough's Forest side won the first leg at the City Ground 2-0 only to lose 3-0 in Belgium, with a controversial goal ruled out. Anderlecht later admitted they had paid Spanish official Emilio Guruceta Muro £20,000 as "a loan" before the game.

Bobby Moore in Colombia 1970:

Just weeks before England mounted their unsuccessful defence of the World Cup in Mexico, talismanic captain Bobby Moore was arrested and charged in Colombia, accused of stealing an emerald bracelet from a hotel shop. All charges were dropped but files released two years later suggest the incident was a deliberate sting on the part of the Colombian secret services.

England are not bad losers, they just don't like being cheated.

ITalkSense

8 May 2009 04:47

"Phughes go to sleep , it's 9 pm already there in Bangkok . Come back here to write alone like a fool when you wake up !" ...LMFAO...

"England don't like being cheated"...LMAO...Let's forget about fantasy stories of how England have been cheated.

But I don't think the Germans like being cheated, so I think there should be a replay of that game where the ball WASN'T over the line...The game which handed England their 1 and only trophy.....what do you think about that pooghes? Is it just a coincidence that England were the Hosts when they won it?

phughes699

8 May 2009 06:03

ITalkSense

The goal you are talking about was ONE of FOUR that England scored that day. Get your facts right Jockstrap.

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 09:01

Italk, the reason I didn’t respond to you is that I am truly bored of responding to your same opinion time and time again; watching paint dry has become more entertaining.

Holly the clown, still going round in circles I see. I see you now back to professing you have things again because you couldn’t back up your claims about what I said, you’re going to go dizzy if you keep going round and round, change the record holly you’re a worm who cannot deliver. You have become the village idiot on here; you had and still have nothing. As I have said previously all you ever had was a couple of links to various websites that any MUPPET could have found Miss Piggy. So either deliver or accept that you are the site CLOWN!

hollyice

8 May 2009 09:46

Good morning newty ,

I have a day off today , we have to arrange some stuff in this new appartment as lately I have spent much time caring for you but you just keep repeating your same speech and now everything you say is boring and incomprehensible for many people.

I am still telling people this guy (newtonheath) used to like to hear only good things about his club MU , and things he likes generally in life ,he is so complexed that he cant stand someone better than him , a house better than his house , a club better than his club . I am trying to correct him and give him what his ethnic background didn't teach him , that in life MATERIAL is not everything . I know Gypsies , we have many here but they are at least good in music and keep their culture and not betrayers like you , who thinks embracing other stuff will make him a man .

Go back to your flashy cloths first and then come to talk with me newty .

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 10:31

Miss Piggy, why is it you just repeat everything I say, are you running out of ideas? I call you a child, you call me a child, I say I’m bored, you say you’re bored.

Once again you have detracted from the subject, you said you had things and you keep failing to deliver, try and put whatever spin on it you wish but it doesn’t remove the fact that you are trying to avoid the inevitable!

There is nothing incomprehensible about a very simple question holly…PROVE YOURSELF. You came on here trying to act the smart arse and it has backfired, if you think it hasn’t backfired then prove it. It is a very, very simple request holly nothing whatsoever incomprehensible about it.

hollyice

8 May 2009 10:40

Newty , I will post when I want , when you dont expect me to ;) I want to make you more fool than what you really are ;)

You see you dont impress anyone anymore , you just needed someone here to put you to your right place . And hollyice put there where you deserve to be ;) Think a little a bit your kid who is soon 14 , the one you made with your first partner before going into troubles and separated , will wonder why his dad is acting like a kid . I hope he is living his life like a European and not a low life level like yours , too bad for the younger ones they are in your jail . I will deliver them trust me .

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 11:05

No Miss Piggy may lad would be proud of his dad who has stuck to his guns and shown everyone what a little worm Holly from Madrid actually is, the same holly that has been derogative to people because of their race, creed and background, the same holly that tried to drag peoples personal lives through the mud and continues to try and do so because of pride. When you started a few weeks ago with your low life, bang out of order actions I told you there was no turning back. I’m a MAN of my word!

So, again (yawn, yawn), say what you like about my background because it doesn’t even make me flinch but I’m still waiting for you to prove yourself! Well?

Oh and by the way I’d say well done on the age of my lad but seen as I told people it was his 13th birthday when we were going the Carling cup final, it isn’t difficult to work out that he will be 14 next time round. Congratulations, you can count!

hollyice

8 May 2009 11:14

But it's the kid of your first partner right ? And because of your pathetic mind you were separated from an innocent woman and satisfied your desire with your selfish ego , you are ready to spoil everything to reach your goals you selfish hypocrite ! Never respected other ones choices , you have reached nothing only failure and selfishness !

phughes699

8 May 2009 12:12

Hollyice thinks he's smart, but he hasn't lived long enough to know what The Manchester Boys know.

He's still not streetwise and the poor little Spick is one of the biggest jokes on Soccerway.Com. All my mates know about him now.

They all say he is a stupid little turd who knows nothing about football.

hollyice

8 May 2009 12:24

Ha ha you've been talking alone all night here , and even talking to yourself saying "stupid ugly bastard" I will make you more crazy dont worry .

Well wonder , where are those soccerway mates who think hollyice is stupid , but I read many guys here who called you paedo . In your place I will be ashamed if someone calls me like that . You will tell me it's my fault for what I posted here ? No , you asked for it ! Yourself to blame you old fart . My father at 60 he enjoys his quite life and I never heard him sweared , you know never even one time ! You must be ashamed Paul about yourself , you think swearing between young guys here will make you young ? Wrong ! You moved to Bangkok to close yourself in your room near to your air conditioner and you think you have done great thing in your life ? Nope ! In Europe you could live better life than mast**bating near your cam you old fart !

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 12:31

Still being a clown I see, again I stated on this site a while ago that I converted a few years ago and I got married after that and with my lad being thirteen it doesn’t take a genius to work out that he was born within a previous relationship. Man you are pathetic, when are you going to be a man? Do you really not realise what a plonker you are being?

You see any one can speculate to achieve a story Miss. Piggy, for example do you remember the time your Dad hit you for bunking off school and you cried for weeks because he always told you that you was his special little soldier, since then you have always been spiteful to other men you put you in your place when you have done wrong.

Dead easy isn’t it you fool?

You see holly, what your problem is, is that you judge a book by its cover and stereotype far too quickly, that is what has gotten you in the mess in the first place. You don’t know me any better than I know Elvis. You keep digging a bigger hole for yourself, the bigger the hole the bigger the fool!

phughes699

8 May 2009 12:56

hollyice

This is how smart you are not. I do happen to own a beautiful house and car here in Thailand. my mates are here now laughing at your comments. They said what a prick you are. You no nothing about me at all. All your bullshit links are a load of nonsense.

Grow up you little turd and get a life.

phughes699

8 May 2009 13:05

Hollyice. my English mates have come around for a beer and I have been showing them your posts. They are laughing and saying how wrong can that little prick be. You are becoming a real CLOWN now. Your posting were perfectly timed, while they are here. You are a real plonker!

......FROLOFAO......................

hollyice

8 May 2009 13:22

Newty said :

" or example do you remember the time your Dad hit you for bunking off school"

I feel pain for your kids if you do really hit them , my father is not a gipsy . And I know Irish gypsies hit their kids . Thanks God I never experienced darkness like you , I am not bullying now because I know it's not something we should laugh about , but sometimes when I think about your pathetic mind and your selfishness I do say you deserved even more bad depression . You didnt find anything better then influence attitudes of other people around you making them more sympathetic to your needs and giving to yourself advantage of what you didnt deserve .

Hollyice knows your cards , you cant play them with him !

As I told you already you have reached nothing only failure and selfishness ! Shame on you !

Chelsea4ever

8 May 2009 13:40

PHUGHES DID YOU TOLD YOUR FRIENDS YOU DREAM TO BUY A PENTHOUSE :D :D :D :D

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 13:42

Still repeating what I’m saying Miss Piggy, definitely out of ideas!

The thing is holly is I’m not playing with you I am deadly serious; I warned you it was a dangerous game, the bigger the hole the bigger the fool!

I’m still waiting, by the way? MAN or CHILD?

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 13:44

Oh for crying out loud, Dumbo’s back Paul!

hollyice

8 May 2009 13:59

Newty said :

I am deadly serious; I warned you it was a dangerous game

Please do me 1 and only 1 favour , because of your kids dont kill yourself . Dont be angry to your working friends or your wife for what is happening here . Today is friday , go to the Central mosque it will be soon praying time , and dont tell me how I know this , it's just because Hollyice is smarter than you . Go ask for forgiveness with your fragile mind you cant purify yourself alone without spiritual help .

Come back , I will try not to make you more fool than this , up to you ...Are you going ?

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 14:19

You are smarter than me!!!!!!! What a clown, thank you Miss Piggy you have just given me my biggest laugh of the day.

Come on holly, juggle some balls for me, and throw one of those buckets of glitter and confetti over your mate Dumbo.

Angry, I’m quite the opposite, watching you make yourself look more and more of a fool fills me with pity! I’m just starting to wonder if you actually have a problem upstairs, if that is the case I may have to consider easing off a little as I know it isn’t nice to mock the afflicted!

I am off to the Mosque now and I will pray for your sanity but I certainly don’t attend the central Mosque as it is too far from my workplace you Muppet. Type “Elvis” into google Miss Piggy, maybe you can get to know him as well you clown, bigger hole, bigger fool.

I’ll be back in an hour or two to see if you have come up with any thing of relevance yet. I’m still waiting…MAN or CHILD?

Paul, the weird thing is, is that the clown is still insistent at playing his low life game, a game that any decent person would turn their nose up at. He really is a little worm isn’t he?

phughes699

8 May 2009 14:19

Mark, you mean the Chelsea4ever Dumbo. Now there is a fine image of a man. I think he is three sheets to the wind or one sandwich short of a picnic. My mates are laughing that much they are spilling their beer.

................HA!HA!HA!HA!

phughes699

8 May 2009 14:22

Mark.

Hollyice is one low life worm, without a doubt. Lower than a snake's belly.

phughes699

8 May 2009 14:25

My Aussie mate said put a search on for GARY GLITTER. It's his birthday today.

......................FROLOFAO...................

phughes699

8 May 2009 14:37

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article2418277.ece

I wonder if ITalkSense is one of this lot, he hasn't been online today.

phughes699

8 May 2009 14:40

If he is one of them, I hope they chop his meat[pole off.

>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Chelsea4ever

8 May 2009 14:43

NEWTONHEATH IF YOU CALL ME DUMBO ONE MORE TIME I WILL TAKE A TRAIN SOON COME AND FUCK YOUR WIFE IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES ! YOU SON OF A B'T'H !

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 14:47

I missed many games recently coz really busy at work and travelling a lot ; (

Hollyice, ITalkSense, Newtonheath1878, Phughes699, Why your always non-stop fighting in Soccerway ??? Seems like a norm for you guys ;D

Sometimes, i'm very confuse and not sure what's your fighting about .......;D

Anyway, some of your comments really made me laugh ;D

Without yours comments, soccerway is just a boring football forum site ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for all the laughs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You all made my day !!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

hollyice

8 May 2009 15:01

Phughes , good that you are checking sometimes news about your friend Gary Glitter the Paedo of Bangkok . And checking also news about other rings around the world . I have a copy about your flixster.com page and the young girls that you deleted , in case if you will be in the court I will come as a witness against you . Those young teens in facebook also , you will tell me they are your cousins ? Charlie your brother will find out soon or later dont worry ... you will have to pay money for those you abused in Thailand .

Well , newty , have you been at the central mosque or not ? What you will say to your God when he starts burning you from your toes up what's the reason you disobeyed Hollyice to go on friday afternoon there ?

Dont escape my questions ...

Salam soccerwinner ;) how are you doing ;) I am teaching these boys how to behave ;)

phughes699

8 May 2009 15:13

Chelsea4ever.

I called you a Dumbo too, because you are. I bet you have a little tiny cock to.

..................LOL...........................

phughes699

8 May 2009 15:17

hollyice.

You are ONE BIG CLOWN, you belong in the circus.

Bring your girlfriend over here so she can have some good meat.

...............LOL...............................

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 15:22

Salaam Hollyice, don't get me wrong i'm not a muslim ;D even though I have be travelled to many muslim countries. Hey, seems like you doing great in this site ;D Since when you become a discipline teacher ??? ;D

Chelsea4ever's last comment to Newtonheath1878 really hash. So mean !

phughes699

8 May 2009 15:25

soccerwinner

Hollyice is ONE BIG WANKER and everyone on here knows it now.

................LOL........................

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 15:26

correction:

I have been travelled not i have be travelled ........

Bostanci

8 May 2009 15:26

paul hughes the peado,

you are scum. I saw your photo and writings on the internet. you are the most pathetic asshole i have ever seen. fuck you, and all english wankers. (the empire is gone you can't have it all anymore).

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 15:30

Phughes699, i only away for a week, how come suddenly you have so many new enemies in this site ??? Who is Bostanci ???

hollyice

8 May 2009 15:31

Soccerwinner ,

I am not getting you wrong ;) Nice to show people we are not racists and nothing against other people's salutations or cultures ;)

I will do my best to send phughes to jail , I have not tried to send him an email to phughes699@yahoo.com yet to explain to him how he will get caught in bangkok .

I asked newtonheath to go an purify himself in mosque today , hopefully he listened to me ;)

hollyice

8 May 2009 15:36

I am really happy that everyone dislikes the Englishmen bad losers . My team lost to Barcelona and our board said that they won because they were far better that day , and when ManU lose it's because of the pitch of Wembley .

The biggest bad losers I ever met . Poor Wembley's ground's man who lost his job .

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 15:46

Hollyice, actually Phughes699 is not that bad person after all, don't be so mean to him. I can see he really enjoy his life in Bangkok. What's wrong he chose living in Bangkok ??? I have friends migrate to Thailand and enjoy their life there. What's surprises me, my friends speak fluently thai language within few years. Besides, thai foods not bad at all. I love their "tom yam". Really nice !!!!!

phughes699

8 May 2009 15:47

soccerwinner

I haven't a clue who he is but he really appears to be more dumb than Chelsea4ever. and they don't come much dumber than him.

............LOL...........................

SERIOUS

8 May 2009 15:48

The problem is not ---like--- or ---dislike--- here . The English must teach themselves how to behave and ask why people hate them .

phughes699

8 May 2009 15:50

hollyice

Wembley's groundsman lost his job because he couldn't lay the grass properly, you stupid jerk.

........LOL.......................

phughes699

8 May 2009 15:52

SERIOUS

People hate the English because we stick up for ourselves, not like the little Spanish worms.

.....LOL.....................

soccer2008

8 May 2009 15:59

why is nobody speek football ? how is english hate so match ? we must be loving each people here for me no problem romania yougoslavia england spain is all the same . but if 1 only people here so much hate who is phughes must become quite for him or go , we want speek football .thank you very much .

phughes699

8 May 2009 16:02

soccerwinner

I am living in the largest continent in the world. It is also the fastest developing continent in the world.

Thailand also has some of the best food produce in the world.

On top of all that it is the hottest place in the world if you work out average temperatures over 12 months.

Bangkok is the capital of Thailand, so you can image, we have everything here.

I've lived in England, Spain and America but this place is the best in the world. And it's getting better every year..

darx72

8 May 2009 16:10

In Thailand you will find the cheapest whores in the world .

ITalkSense

8 May 2009 16:10

newty, the reason you didn't respond was because you had NO answer. It's ok, there's nothing to be embarrassed about. I can stop anyone in their tracks who talk nonsense.

I have to ask you, I'm not being funny but I read that the child isn't from your current Marriage? Is he a Bastard? Maybe that's also why you're so confused and angry in your life. A lot of men find it hard to settle when they know their child is a Bastard. You shouldn't take it out on the kid though newty, it's not his fault you couldn't wait until you were Married.

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 16:23

darx72 & ITalkSense ;D ;D ;D

I had enough of laughing already.......... ;D ;D ;D

hollyice

8 May 2009 16:31

I just realised ITalkSense's post :D He killed me with laugh again :D

phughes699

8 May 2009 16:38

ITalkSense

It seems to be that you are a product of out of wedlock. I bet your Mum is a whore in Glasgow too.

On top of that I wonder who is the father of an ugly bastard like you?

phughes699

8 May 2009 16:42

ITalkSense's whore of a Mum only went for a shit and he fell out.

.............LOL.............................

ITalkSense

8 May 2009 16:53

Come on guys, I'm trying to be serious. This could be the main cause of all newty's problems. We've already established pooghes problems = being brought up in filthy houses with dirty curtains, being neglected, being abused mentally AND physically etc...

I heard your mother worked as a whOre pooghes, but she had to stop because she couldn't GIVE IT AWAY. The customers were asking HER to pay THEM.....LMAO...and YOU were 1 of HER customers...ROFLMFAO

hollyice

8 May 2009 16:59

ITalkSense , stop it :D I will die here laughing :D

Read about Poohg mates Ray Skingsley and Barry Sadler with whom he used to play his hot games when he was in Saltney ;)

ITalkSense

8 May 2009 17:07

pooghes didn't play doctors&nurses when he was a boy...HE played doctors&doctors...lmao

Chelsea4ever

8 May 2009 17:09

NOT A SURPRISE IF HE NEVER GOT A WOMAN IN HIS LIFE ONLY PLAYING WITH LITTLE BOYS SINCE HE WAS SMALL :D

THANKS FOR ALL THE DETAILS HOLLYICE :D

hollyice

8 May 2009 17:16

Gary Glitter is sleeping now . Did you realise guys , before phughes goes to sleep he post some very dirty comment which helps him to sleep . Then when he wakes up he answers for all of us when he is the only one online in soccerway . I guess soccerway night workers are laughing when it's around 7 o'clock in Bangkok .

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 17:23

Thanks for all the laughs. You guys are really, really, really BEST JOKE TELLERS in the WORLD !

hollyice

8 May 2009 17:29

Still waiting Newty , he was out for friday pray with his mates and escorted by his wife brothers thinking I am behind him in some corner . Dont think too much newty , your program is in front of me , you are under my control .

No heard after he said "I am deadly serious; I warned you it was a dangerous game"

Soccerwinner and chelsea have you seen this irish gipsy video ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZPH14zZi9M

Tell me if you understand anything what they talk , I can imagine newtonheath father how he was , if he got one .

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 17:33

Thanks clowns for proving my point, Miss Piggy and Kermit can not hold a conversation without becoming derogative.

Holly, I’ve been to my Mosque, come back and still nothing of relevance ???? You say you are so smart where is it then. Well? You have skirted round the subject for weeks now and still nothing so it is obvious that you are a child and a failure. I don’t know why I’ve wasted my time for as long as I have as I knew you couldn’t deliver from the offset, what a clown!

Sticks and stone Italk, sticks and stones! No, as I said I didn’t respond simply because I’m bored of your same rant week in week out, the only reason I continue with Miss Piggy is because he is a worm who professes to know me but the reality is that he is that dim he would walk into a mirror if not warned. All he needs to do is come up with the goods!

Chelsea4. DUMBO. Choo Choo!

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 17:38

“You are under my control”

What an absolute clown you are, keep at Miss Piggy, keep digging!

Bostanci

8 May 2009 17:48

phughes the old fart, & soccerwinner

you will never learn anything. you are both scums, just because you are english. People hate the English because they are shit. i will be traveling to Bangkok, and hope to meet you peado there. you are in the right country, anyway. only in Thailand peados would live free.

hollyice

8 May 2009 17:54

Ok newty , you got some credit , did you purify yourself when praying or ? Do you know how to do it ? Or just like every "materialist" waste your time there thinking you will mistaken your God like you mistaken Phughes ? Becarefull God is smarter than Phughes .

Can you please tell to Italksense that the resaon of your depession was not the bastardo kid you had out of mariage . That you had more complexed situation than that which left for you a permanent mental handicap .

Remember blame yourself , not your ex , not your family and no one else . God will put you to hell without LOVE for making a bastard , but your place is not in paradise too .

Boy , ask your ex-partner best friends they will tell you what she did . You have been naive but go far to ask DNA tests to be sure of your paternity .

Now , she is happy , she met a better guy and live a life full of harmony . Never beat a woman remember !

Bostanci

8 May 2009 18:04

english are very brave only in england. when the decisions go against them, they either threaten the referees or create conspiracy theories. it is very easy to threaten the referees in england. i travelled many different countries to see football matches because of my job. met lots of different supporters. i assure you all that the worst supporters are english. not saying all english are like phughes the peado, but most of the english supporters are rubbish, drunken, uneducated, racist and stupid.

i will probably attend the AFC final on 7 November 2009 in Tokyo. i might go to Bangkok and see phughes the pathetic.

hollyice

8 May 2009 18:04

Soccerwinner , dont waste your time with archavabill , it's phughes . He wont answer before morning when he wakes up .

soccerwinner

8 May 2009 18:07

Bostanci, did i said anything bad about you ??? Why you hated me so much ??? I don't even know you. By the way, i'm not from England. My English still far behind if compare with Phughes699 and Newtonheath1878.

Bostanci, guess you are from Turkey right ???

newtonheath1878

8 May 2009 18:11

Are you still going on with your drivel Miss Piggy, I’ve obviously upset you big time haven’t I? But still nothing holly, is it becoming frustrating knowing that you want to prove how smart you are to everyone but just haven’t got the ammunition to do it? Go out tonight and treat yourself and take a reality check otherwise my name is going to be permanently stuck in your mind!

Mark Redman Mark Redman Mark Redman Mark Redman Mark Redman Mark Redman

Got to beat him Got to beat him Got to beat him Got to beat him Got to beat him Got to beat him

I'm off for the weekend now so I can't attend the circus for a while, but keep performing SOCCERWAY CLOWN!

Sleep well worm, don't think about me too much!

hollyice

8 May 2009 18:12

Well , Bostanci , newtonheath is not drunken or racist but he is a bad loser . He is not from England even if he defends England . He made his first kid out of mariage which is a sin and everytime he remembers that he presses his face very strongly with his two hands , I start to be worried about his chin , his wife is bored with his "leave me in peace " sentence .

He doesnt know if he joins our club , dislike England , the English , the Jew Glazer he will be happier :)

hollyice

8 May 2009 18:14

Newty , I know you cant connect during the week-ends you dont have to tell me that . Did you forget that I know you ? Hello to your wife .

Bostanci

8 May 2009 18:58

soccerwinner,

i am from georgia, not turkey. i do not hate you at all. i just love football. i have no longer playing football but still make my money from football. so, i hate all those hooligans, racists, supporters like general type english fans (mostly). beleive me, everyone really had enough with them. hope all english teams will be banned from all football competations, and leave the beautiful game to human beings. i have been in the stadium (heysel) when the hooligans killed 39 people. i strongly beleive phughes was one of the hooligans, that's why i hate him, and cannot stand him.

Bostanci

8 May 2009 19:03

ITalkSense and hollyice,

i am very happy that such football fans like you two are still exist. i really would like to help you to find tickets for the UEFA Champions League final in roma, if you want.

hollyice

8 May 2009 20:01

Bostanci , thanks but teams like Man U dont deserve a penny from my pocket .

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